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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: wangbone on August 12, 2011, 02:05 am
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Has anyone bought from vendor "auto43"? A few things strike me as suspicious:
1. Has a huge selection (19 items), and has been selling for a month, yet until yesterday he had only 3 transactions. He had only 1 transaction the day before yesterday.
2. Received feedback on 4 transactions yesterday, all of them at the same time.
3. Half of his 8 transactions have no feedback or say "Leave feedback here".
4. Hasn't entered any information on his profile page.
On the other hand, auto43 could be an honest seller who just happened to have a two week dry spell.
Any thoughts?
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Suspicion confirmed. I was a bit weary myself, but wanted to test. I got the product today, and it shows various signs that the product is fake. EuroChem's website shows how to spot a fake, and this bottle is nothing at all like the pictures I've seen on their website and around the internet. The neck of the vial is wrong. The vial should measure 5cm from top to bottom, and this one measures 5.5cm. Also, the hologram on it is generic. The colors of the label are wrong, the fonts are wrong, and the placement of the text is wrong. It also came shrinkwrapped with a holo strip which EC does not do.
All signs point to this being a fake. I highly suggest anyone considering purchasing this to re-evaluate doing so. I'm hoping I can get my payment back.
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You can always change your feedback. If you didn't notice that it was a fake before you wrote it, it's not too late.
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You can always change your feedback. If you didn't notice that it was a fake before you wrote it, it's not too late.
I havent finalized the transaction because it's not what I ordered. I contacted the staff regarding it. No feedback left yet.
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You can always change your feedback. If you didn't notice that it was a fake before you wrote it, it's not too late.
I havent finalized the transaction because it's not what I ordered. I contacted the staff regarding it. No feedback left yet.
If it's not what you ordered then you deserve a refund from the vendor.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Anyone have any feedback on the Eurochem gear?
I have heard much more positive things then negative about EC, but I have also heard that it is underdosed...
if anyone here is cycling with Auto43's stuff, lemme know what you think, I'm planning a long TE+EQ 26 weeker.
Thanks
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I ordered clenbuterol and anavar. Day 4 since shipping and have received nothing. I will thoroughly inspect when I receive. First time ordering this type of stuff so feel free to give me things to look for to confirm authenticity of products...
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I ordered Clenbuterol on 8/22.
I ordered Anavar on 8/23.
Received a message from auto43 saying that the clen is potent and to be careful, starting with only one drop. I asked about dosage per drop and was told 35mcg/drop. Auto43 said that the clen had shipped and the anavar would follow. A couple of days later I sent a message asking about anavar cycles. Auto43 responded that clen should be here by now. I replied stating that I hadn't received anything. Auto43 stated that if clen has not arrived by 8/29, he will send a replacement.
I am very interested to see if the clen does not arrive tomorrow. If not, I will notify Auto43, but if anavar also has not arrived by then I will be very suspicious of this seller. If you are considering buying from auto43, I suggest you monitor this thread and wait to see how my situation plays out. This is a transaction of around 30BTC so it's not a trivial amount of money for me. :-\
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I ordered two products: anavar (oxanabol) and clenbuterol. I placed these orders on separate days. I received both packages today with no visible postmark.
Here is a link to a forum that shows the distinguishing characteristics of authentic anavar - http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=2461800
Traits of authentic British Dragon Anavar - Holographic label, white sealed package, white label with bold orange heading, 4-5 year shelf life, and according to the British Dragon Website there is a coded label which can be entered on their website to authenticate each package. The packaging also has a particular layout and alignment with respect to the leterring and font. The pills are orange squares with a center scoring on one side with BD on either side of the score and 10 on the opposite side.
Product I received - No holograms, black package, shiny silver label with light orange heading, 2 year shelf life (says it was manf. 10/03/2011 and exp. 10/03/2013), there is no authentication label/code. The alignment of the font and label is different from the authentic. The label printing also appears to be of a low quality with several areas of the label showing printing irregularities (faint spots these are very visible in the photos I uploaded). The pills are brownish/orange cubes. The impressions on many are so faint as to not be recognizable. A few of the pills do have BD on either side of a score impression, but I couldn't find any with a 10 on the opposite. Overall the pills look very "homemade" not like a professionally pressed pharmaceutical pill.
As for the clenbuterol:
Listing states that Clenbuterol is 250mcg/30ml. The bottle I received is labeled as being Thai Phoenix company brand 200mcg/30ml. The label is poorly printed with certain areas being so badly printed that they are illegible. The label includes a picture of a molecule and says it is "Clenbuterol Aquabolic" and has the chemical name "(RS)-1-(4-amino-3,5-dichlorophenyl)-2-(tert-butylamino). I'm not a chemist, but when I search for other pictures of that molecule it looks nothing like the one on the label. The label includes an email address "orders@steroidexpress.com.pa". Plugging in the domain "steroidexpress.com.pa" leads to a default placeholder webpage with no product listings, contact info, etc.
I have no idea what these substances are and I'm sure as hell not going to put them inside my body. I have written to auto43 asking for an order cancellation and refund. I believe that this is the only satisfactory solution. Fraudulent vendors should not be tolerated on SR and it is up to us, the community, to bring fraud to light.
Photos of what I received -
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Auto43 claims that the "disclaimer" on his profile protects him against claims of fake products. Sorry, bub. For one, your disclaimer refers specifically to Eurochem products and not British Dragon or Thai Phoenix products. Secondly, I don't give a fuck what you write on your profile. You can't sell Mexican brick weed as medicinal OG Kush and throw up a disclaimer saying "My OG Kush is legit, it just looks and smells a little different than what you're used to seeing because it comes from Holland."
Please Read Before ordering products:
I can now ship to Canada and EU. Please add Canada or EU shipping to your cart if you would like this service. You will recieve a tracking # for all international orders. I'm not responsible for what the customs rules of your country. You import at your own risk! On my end I will package your order with the utmost care with special attention to making it inconspicuous.
There are several Eurochem suppliers out there and I am not affiliated with any of them. Alot of the websites it seems have popped up after the original EC was shut down - I'm not sure who runs them and they may or may not provide legit working products.
My supply comes from Holland. Do not order my shit if your going to complain that it doesn't look exactly like the EC you saw on another website, because as I mentioned, those sites are the replicas and there is no way to definitavely prove which one takes precedence.
What I do know is my customers use the products and love them.
Also, the Sustanon 250 is Egyptian Nile, and not Karachi. Quality is the same but labels are a little different. Ordering the products signifies that you have read and comply with this.
Your package will be bubble wrapped and discreetly shipped to you. Please take care to write your address down carefully so there will be no mistakes in the shipping!
Cheers!
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@sleepyg Did you ever get a refund of any kind?
Not looking good auto43, I suggest you try to make amends while you can.
You're customers are not happy.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Auto43 replied again with the following. The problem I have with his explanation is that the site to which he is referring is the website printed on the packaging. If it is understood that the website is a copycat like "all British Dragon products", then why would you print that website on your anavar unless you want people to think it came from that source?
British Dragon was shut down in 2007 during Operation Raw deal; it had 2 owners: one of whom died shortly after his arrest, and the second is still in prison. Please look it up if you don't believe me. The brand was wholly dismantled in thailand if im not mistaken.
The website that you are citing is not original. They, just like all other BD suppliers are selling replicas of an original brand name which no longer exists.
"New products will all be equipped with state of the art BD-PSS system which will enable all its customers to identify the legitimacy and manufacturing information of each individual product online."
again, sir, there are no "new products" there can be no such thing because BD no longer exists. All products must be one of 2 things A: Surplus from the original, or B: replica, which is what the site you have cited is.
Please do the research. I'm not saying they are not providing an active ingredient, what im saying is, they are not original.
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The label includes a picture of a molecule and says it is "Clenbuterol Aquabolic" and has the chemical name "(RS)-1-(4-amino-3,5-dichlorophenyl)-2-(tert-butylamino). I'm not a chemist, but when I search for other pictures of that molecule it looks nothing like the one on the label.
Fun fact: The molecule on the clenbuterol bottle is actually the molecule for oxandrolone (aka anavar). WTF?
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I got my Test C and it burns like hell! Ive gotten Test C before from a pharmacy and it didnt burn at all...
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I got my Test C and it burns like hell! Ive gotten Test C before from a pharmacy and it didnt burn at all...
Have you contacted the Silk Road staff? If you think the product is fraudulent, then I encourage you to do so.
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I placed an order for some Test E and EQ, I'm going to start my cycle soon and I will keep an update on my progress. I have some experience with this stuff so I will know how good the product is after a few weeks. I'll post on whether or not the gear is g2g ;)
@rx4200
UGL Test C is going to have more PIP than the pharma grade stuff, they put more BA (benzyl alcohol) in it to sterilize the product. I wouldn't worry too much about that.
@freeman
sounds like UGL var to me. Most anavar you are going to come across is not pharmaceutical grade you should take 50-60mg/day for 4 weeks and see what happens.
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@freeman
sounds like UGL var to me. Most anavar you are going to come across is not pharmaceutical grade you should take 50-60mg/day for 4 weeks and see what happens.
So, is this really how the steroid market works? I'm just supposed to know that when a vendor says that they are selling a particular brand of steroid that it's bullshit and that it's really made in an unknown underground lab with who knows what kind of practices/purity? I mean, as a black marketeer, I know that the LSD I'm buying is made in that fashion but at the same time no LSD sellers on Silk Road claim that they are selling a specific brand of LSD made by a specific pharmaceutical company. And if they did claim that, then I would expect them to be honest about it.
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I ordered 100 tabs of gabapentin (neurotin) from auto43 5 days ago, I recieved them yesterday and immediatly took 4. I have to say he's legit and I enjoyed doing business with him as he was honest and had very fast communications.
Just my 2 cents hope it helps.
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Received my order today, planning on starting cycle friday. I will give Auto43 100% respect. I have injected many UGL products into my body and I have no reason to believe Auto is fucking anyone. Give me a few weeks and I will post my gains.
@Freeman: Yes, the steroid market is just like any other illegal market. You have to trust your source. I have taken many ecstasy pills not knowing what is in it. The pills you have are anavar, if you want to sell them to me give me a PM
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@Freeman: Yes, the steroid market is just like any other illegal market. You have to trust your source. I have taken many ecstasy pills not knowing what is in it. The pills you have are anavar, if you want to sell them to me give me a PM
I agree. And I feel that a trustworthy source doesn't say "This is British Dragon anavar." They say "This is underground anavar in BD packaging."
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@Freeman: Yes, the steroid market is just like any other illegal market. You have to trust your source. I have taken many ecstasy pills not knowing what is in it. The pills you have are anavar, if you want to sell them to me give me a PM
I agree. And I feel that a trustworthy source doesn't say "This is British Dragon anavar." They say "This is underground anavar in BD packaging."
I cannot agree with you more. However, I have seen this type of marketing for BD gear before. It is common knowledge in the BB community that any British Dragon product is going to be homebrew. That said, I dont think Auto is trying to be sly about his product, people just know BD is a fictional construct for underground gear.
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I cannot agree with you more. However, I have seen this type of marketing for BD gear before. It is common knowledge in the BB community that any British Dragon product is going to be homebrew. That said, I dont think Auto is trying to be sly about his product, people just know BD is a fictional construct for underground gear.
Yeah, after talking to you and some others, I think that you're probably right. Nevertheless, Silk Road is not a BB community. There's also the matter that the clenbuterol was listed as 250mg/ml and the bottle says 200mg/ml. Maybe the products are good, but on the whole it's just sloppy. It sucks because I do want good sources for these products and auto43 definitely has the corner on the market here. I'd even consider buying some other products if things are sorted out and at least get an apology from auto43, because I DO think that the listings were misleading, even if it was unintentional.
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I finalized both orders with a 3 rating and explanation. I emailed auto43 explaining in more detail why I think it is wrong. Hopefully auto43 irons out these issues.
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Received my order today, planning on starting cycle friday. I will give Auto43 100% respect. I have injected many UGL products into my body and I have no reason to believe Auto is fucking anyone. Give me a few weeks and I will post my gains.
@Freeman: Yes, the steroid market is just like any other illegal market. You have to trust your source. I have taken many ecstasy pills not knowing what is in it. The pills you have are anavar, if you want to sell them to me give me a PM
I'm really interested in obfuscator's results. I hope he puts them on this thread.
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I just wanted to follow up on this thread. I too bought some pills (D Bol supposedly) that looks nothing like any D bol I have ever seen and the packaging is marked as both British Dragon Nutraceuticals as well as British Dragon Pharmaceuticals. It matches the pictures taken by Freeman exactly. Would love to hear if Freeman's product was successful or bunk.
I have tried to communicate with auto to discuss but he has NEVER answered one communication which is a bad sign.
I also find it odd that there is not one comment anywhere about the use of the product whether it be successful or not considering how many transactions he has had.
ANY input on this would be appreciated whether it be good or bad experiences.
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Thanks
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sounds to me like hes using an Indian pharmacy/ seller to get his stuff and they are doing some marketing ploy so that people will trust a name and buy the shit based on trusting the name alone. Necer heard of any kinds of steroid test kits. but would benice in this case. we need a good reputable juice dealer here
i don like that venodrs sell a product based on lies to increase marketability. just say its a knock off that has the legit substance in it. and hopefully it will..
anyone tried the trenbelone form him?
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I just wanted to follow up on this thread. I too bought some pills (D Bol supposedly) that looks nothing like any D bol I have ever seen and the packaging is marked as both British Dragon Nutraceuticals as well as British Dragon Pharmaceuticals. It matches the pictures taken by Freeman exactly. Would love to hear if Freeman's product was successful or bunk.
I have tried to communicate with auto to discuss but he has NEVER answered one communication which is a bad sign.
I also find it odd that there is not one comment anywhere about the use of the product whether it be successful or not considering how many transactions he has had.
ANY input on this would be appreciated whether it be good or bad experiences.
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Thanks
auto43 and some other folks managed to convince me that this is just what most street steroids are like. Never bought any before so I just had to go based on what I could find. auto43 then offered to hook me up with 4 ampules of sustanon if I bought 2 vials of test-e. I took the deal. The sustanon amps are labeled as Organon and the test-e is labelled as EuroChem. I haven't used either and might not at all. Still haven't done a first cycle because I know better than to waste it if my training and diet aren't up to par...and they're not right now.
I did take the 50mg/day anavar but it wasn't for very long. I don't think I can say I got much benefit.
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anyone tried the trenbelone form him?
yes, and if you have reservations order 1 amp of tren do 50mg/day and you will know whether or not its legit within a week.
or you could always brew your own fina. I dont do it cause im lazy, but I know others who do it with ease and these folks aren't the sharpest bulbs on the tree
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Alright. I've been using Auto's Sustanon/Tren/Mast/Equi for 2 months. His shit is the real deal. If you are familiar with the effects of certain products you will know. The Test and Tren I knew right off the bat were legit. Esp the tren(cold sweats while sleeping/trensomnia/aggression). Within 2 months I went from low 170's to almost breaking 200lbs. Veins are fucking popping too. Delts and Traps are the telltale signs man. The poundage I can move just in 2 mths is phenomenal. I basically surpassed any weight I ever lifted naturally. I'm breaking from tren for awhile(you guys that have used know why), and I'm gonna throw some Primo in there. I haven't tried his nolvadex yet,(its on order) and like a dumbass I had very little adex on hand for gyno. Make sure you guys have plenty of ais on hand before you start. Esp the noobs. Nips will get to hurting quick. How you know your shit is legit: Scale/mirror/and when ppl start commenting<----------------------------------------------- These are the only products I have used from Auto so far. I haven't tried his orals yet. I def want some dbol/adrol for pre workout:) Any questions? Ask me. I want to try his GH bad but need a little more dough.
Here's my stack as of now. I plan on staying on for awhile. Blast/cruise:
Sust- 500mg per week(will be switching to test E shortly)
Tren- 75mg ed(was gonna try 150 ed but I think mentally, and sleep wise prob not)
Mast- 100mg eod
Equ- 600mg per week(thinking about 900mg. Equi takes awhile to kick in)
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I have all of my PCT gear, 2 vials of test-E and 4 amps of sustanon. This is the year I'm going to get back in shape. The past few years have been tough and my health has suffered and I've gained a lot of weight. But I have all the gear I need I just have to get in shape before I'm ready to start using it.
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I'd like to hear positive reviews from a reputable buyer. it sucks that we don't have well established steroid market on sr
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Alright. I've been using Auto's Sustanon/Tren/Mast/Equi for 2 months. His shit is the real deal. If you are familiar with the effects of certain products you will know. The Test and Tren I knew right off the bat were legit. Esp the tren(cold sweats while sleeping/trensomnia/aggression). Within 2 months I went from low 170's to almost breaking 200lbs. Veins are fucking popping too. Delts and Traps are the telltale signs man. The poundage I can move just in 2 mths is phenomenal. I basically surpassed any weight I ever lifted naturally. I'm breaking from tren for awhile(you guys that have used know why), and I'm gonna throw some Primo in there. I haven't tried his nolvadex yet,(its on order) and like a dumbass I had very little adex on hand for gyno. Make sure you guys have plenty of ais on hand before you start. Esp the noobs. Nips will get to hurting quick. How you know your shit is legit: Scale/mirror/and when ppl start commenting<----------------------------------------------- These are the only products I have used from Auto so far. I haven't tried his orals yet. I def want some dbol/adrol for pre workout:) Any questions? Ask me. I want to try his GH bad but need a little more dough.
Here's my stack as of now. I plan on staying on for awhile. Blast/cruise:
Sust- 500mg per week(will be switching to test E shortly)
Tren- 75mg ed(was gonna try 150 ed but I think mentally, and sleep wise prob not)
Mast- 100mg eod
Equ- 600mg per week(thinking about 900mg. Equi takes awhile to kick in)
THIS is excellent feedback and just what I was looking for...
The review system on SR is a bit misleading..
How can one comment on the validity of auto's gear by just getting their pack?
I dont care you got your pack!!!!
I want to know if the gear is legit!!!
Reading this review makes me want to put an order in now, although more reviews are welcome...
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Anyone that said take 50-60mg of anavar doesn't know what he or she is talking about. 200mg is the minimum dose for most AAS users like my self. Anavar is extremely mild.